October 18th 2016
Call Information
8:15AM PST - Seattle
11:15AM EST - New York, DC
5:15PM CEST - CEST, Geneva, Copenhagen, Joburg
6:15PM EAT - Dar
Webex Link: https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/#/meetings/detail?uuid=M299H1X42RL8F1ABXL3LOKN9TN-3O29&rnd=371900.06805
Meeting Number: 192 173 465
Host Key: 352864
Audio Connection: +1-415-655-0001
AGENDA:
Item | Time | Lead |
|---|---|---|
Review status of the roadmap and development progress.
| 5 min | @Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated) |
Discussion on proposed features for stock management OpenLMIS. @Danni Yu (Unlicensed) to share what they have learned from their work in Mozambique with ESMS. She has sent out an email outlining the different features. As a group, let's discuss which are globally applicable and share information on if similar requests were made in different countries. Pre-read: | 45 min | @Danni Yu (Unlicensed) |
Not discussed, moved to next meeting. Upcoming opportunities for in person meetings:
| 5 min | @Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated) |
Not discussed, moved to next meeting. Discussion: Documenting use cases and community knowledge management across countries. Comic credit: Requirements 101 | Depends on if we have enough time... | @Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated) |
ACTION ITEMS:
From last meeting:
ATTENDANCE:
@Chris George (Unlicensed)
@Danni Yu (Unlicensed)
Shiyu @ syjin@thoughtworks.com
@Lakshmi Balachandran
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed)
@Brian Taliesin
@Kevin Cussen (Deactivated)
@Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated)
NOTES:
Focused the notes on Danni's presentation. Please update directly if I captured something incorrectly.
Slide 2: Needs
@Brian Taliesin: raised the need to automate the batch processing
@Kevin Cussen (Deactivated): added Accountability
Slide 3: Add product to facility stock list
A "favorite" list which storeroom managers can select products from the master product list
Slide 4: Archive products at the facility level
Can archive and add products back
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed): outlined that eLMIS uses the activating and deactivating of products at a central level
@Brian Taliesin: sees a need to 'hide' expire batches
Open question: Are we seeing a need for this in other countries?
Slide 5: Alerts on stock on hand overview
If the expiry is going to happen in 3 months, an alert will be displayed. Currently the feature is a globally applicable calculation, not product by product.
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed) - potentially sees a need for products having specific alerts for specific products and programs
@Brian Taliesin - seeing a need for more granular alerts (by manufacturer)
Slide 6: General information on stock card
Kevin: Are the colors (red/black) used to make it look like the paper stock card?
Danni: Any other stock movements other than issues is in red. Objective to mimic the paper stock cards used in Mozambique
Kevin: is the UI flexible to different requirements? Danni - no, just for mozambique
Kevin: can the lot information be extended/expanded?
Danni: using OpenLMIS concept
Mary Jo: what level of configurability would we want at the stock card level?
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed): Should have required fields on the top, but allow for expansion of additional attributes. Don't want to deal with the attributes on a day-to-day basis. The groups can be optional.
@Brian Taliesin: see a similar subset of columns/fields across countries. Some level of configurability would be of value.
Slide 7: Stock movement history
@Danni Yu (Unlicensed): has only observed pharmacists going back one or two months. Allows a view of history for the Pharmists.
@Kevin Cussen (Deactivated): mentioned that usually folks higher up the chain usually take a look at history
Brian: sees this needs for auditors or higher up in the supply chain
Kevin: What does archived mean to the end user? to the admin?
Danni: end user → deletes it from local tablet storage. admin → still available on the server
Kevin: what is the volume? Worried about storage?
Danni: the call of 13 months was due to worries around storage.
Slide 8: Make a new stock movement
@Danni Yu (Unlicensed): there was a need for more adjustment types. What type of adjustments are other countries seeing?
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed): has see the majority are received, issues, adjustments reasons (+/-) based on the type of adjustment. We have seen the transfer between facilities (example vaccines). Transfer stock between the facilities.
@Danni Yu (Unlicensed): we also have seen a need for that but haven't found a good way to address yet.
@Chris George (Unlicensed): reason for postive and negative?
@Danni Yu (Unlicensed): to replicate how they are doing things now and for reporting purposes.
Slide 9: Add stock entries/positive adjustments
@Kevin Cussen (Deactivated): How do you accept source of movement (i.e. dropdown to freeform). How does the signature work? Stylus?
Shiyu: origins of movement (reference number) is done manually. Destination is free form. Signature is just typing of the name.
Brian: Policy wise do they allow for electronic signature?
Shiyu: Wanted a simple solution which doesn't take much time.
Brian: is it duplicate with paper?
Shiyu/Danni: yes, duplicate
Brian: is there a printout option?
Danni: good suggestion, no printout as of yet and the feature wasn't brought up yet.
Danni: no source information so there could be conflict… data entry errors around lots
Ashraf: talks about the integration with EPICOR which provides the lots and reduces this..
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed) shared the Tanzania example and needs. He described the need to outline the process flow for bigger hospitals, receives from 'bulk storage' then issues to different labs/facilities.
Open Question: What are the workflows are we (OpenLMIS) wanting to cover for receiving/issuing?
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed): What kind of offline capabilities?
Danni: configured online for products, basic data, but then everything can be done offline. Periodic connection.
@Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed): raised the question, What about multiple tablets in one facility?
Danni: one user = one facility
We ran over time and the group will continue the conversation next meeting and address the last two agenda items.
RECORDING
ADDITIONAL READING:
Review @Danni Yu (Unlicensed)'s document:
Documentation Discussion: WIP Stock Management Scope
To @Ashraf Islam (Unlicensed)'s question on the last meeting, I wanted to share this document around how to look at and address adopting standards. This resource may be useful when discussing the larger approach for standards adoption. .