PC: January 29 2019

Call Information

  • 08:00 PDT - Seattle
  • 11:00 EDT - New York, DC
  • 17:00 CAT - Zambia/Malawi (UTC+2)
  • 18:00 EAT - Tanzania/Kenya (UTC+3)

Last Meeting NotesPC: January 15 2019



Lead (Time)

Notes and Updates

Software Development Update

RoadmapLiving Product Roadmap 

Current sprintBacklog Grooming Sprint 117

Upcoming sprintBacklog Grooming Sprint 118


  • 3.5 Release Retrospective coming soon
  • 3.6 Aiming for the end of March
  • What to see what is in which release, check this out.

Team statshttps://openlmis.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12504

Velocity: Context: Includes all four teams.  Team performance is impacted by manual testing, regression testing began in Sprint 105, released 3.4 in Sprint 106, released 3.5 in Sprint 113, Holidays impacted 114 and 115.

3.6 Scope

3.6 Feature List

Brief update

Discussion on OLMIS-5665 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Questions on how frequently users use google translate plug-in versus the in application translation?

Sebastian Brudziński

The fix is large and want to understand how prevalent the use of the plug-in actually is.

Fix would only work for Google Translate and an entire review of the application for each field/item.

Simon Dean (Unlicensed) - will lock down and controlled environment to prevent users from accessing and performing actions we don't want them to. We will also be deploying on a private network. Essentially they can prevent or allow users to have access to specific applications. 

Dercio Duvane - raised that users can still log into the system and not use the supplied device. For instance, users could login from a private computer.

Wesley Brown - perhaps we could tackle this with a warning instead of changing OpenLMIS to support running with this application.

Dercio Duvane - would be wary of people not paying attention to the message and actually manually turn it off. Is it going to manual or automatic?

Sebastian Brudziński - we probably cannot automatically turn off the plug -in but could flash a message.

Simon Dean (Unlicensed) - has a work around been tried? What about turning off all translations?

Sebastian Brudziński - yes we could turn off everything.

Simon Dean (Unlicensed) - probably should leave it as a configuration.

Dercio Duvane - sounds like a good idea to turn off the google plug-in application.

Sebastian Brudziński - this should be possible and an easier fix. 

Update on development of  OLMIS-1302 - Getting issue details... STATUS Ashraf


SMS decision

Josh Zamor (5 min)

GAVI/GF RFI Response

Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OTc1sOuxH7Po95GQJzwUj-KS3LIllYGc

Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated)

Submitted. Rebecca Alban (Unlicensed) will keep the team updated on the response and next steps.

Transitioning the Product Committee

  • Mary Jo shares reflections
  • Wes asks members what they find valuable (or not) to restructure going forward.
Wesley Brown

As we are going forward, do we want to change the structure or format of the product committee meetings?

Simon Dean (Unlicensed) - I'm currently ok with content. Would like to know more about the development process and prioritization process. Having insight into that would be useful.

Sebastian Brudziński - easier to see and set priorities going forward. It is challenging to do this, but it would be really useful. Could limit the options. Could involve more people. Make it easier to decide on what is next.

Dercio Duvane - I do look how we set up the meetings and content. Unfortunately we do not have the attendance we would like to have. Is there a plan to have a smaller group specific to geographies? It is hard time for their team to join.

Ryan Freeland (Deactivated) - observed that asking for input is challenging, but it would be useful to have more input from the countries. Perhaps cold calling are finding ways for more engagement because we need to hear from them. When issues are presented, it is useful to call out which country, users, context in framing the discussion and understanding what is going on.

Wesley Brown - one challenge is this committee falls in between the governance and technical committees. we cannot rely on PC to give consistent direction in a timely manner. Possible change would be to refocus this on implementers and their needs. Give another way to give feedback on the product itself. Would like to get more feedback from other individuals.

Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated) People do want transparency in the development process but the sheer number of details makes it difficult to understand within the context of this meeting. However, people do gain value from hearing about what we're doing and giving feedback on priorities. Hope that we could find a process/feedback mechanism which this community buys into. Regarding the software development process, we could do a better job of being transparent about what we're doing and how the overall process is doing. Need to figure out how to break up the information so that it is more digestible. Other communities have had success with having a specific person (or group?) champion specific features. 

Key takeaway: try to create a clear evaluation framework for prioritization so folks can contribute and weigh in consistently. 

NFR Performance Update

NFR page: Non-Functional Requirements - performance

Wesley Brown (5 min)(did not get to this, ran out of time)

Next PC meeting: Topic ideas??

Continue the conversation on changing things up.

Additional Requests and Information:


Dercio DuvaneSimon Dean (Unlicensed)Ryan Freeland (Deactivated)Wesley BrownMary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated)Sebastian Brudziński


Meeting Recording:


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