2018 12 13 Global Goods Implementer Meeting
When: December 13, 2018
Where: Washington, D.C.
Attendees: @Wesley Brown, @Rebecca Alban (Unlicensed) and @Mary Jo Kochendorfer (Deactivated)
Table of Contents
- 1 Agenda and Slides
- 2 Key Takeaways
- 3 Follow up
- 4 NOTES
- 4.1 Digital health and the Global Goods
- 4.2 Global Good Guidebook (advocacy tool for funding country implementations and core development)
- 4.3 What is a global good?
- 4.4 Sustainability
- 4.5 Global Goods Governance
- 4.6 UI Breakout Session
- 4.7 Basket of Services for Implementers
- 4.8 Common ICT Building Blocks to accelerate progress to the SDGs
Agenda and Slides
The Agenda here. The slides presented during the day are here.
Key Takeaways
The following is from Amanda at Digital Square.
“We (Digital Square) walked away from this meeting with a few take-aways and next steps that we are especially excited about. Some of them include:
A collaborative communications plan to strengthen the message of global goods and amplify our platform.
A deep dive into Cloud hosting and interoperability standards.
Discussion around emerging governance structures to better support global good communities.
Leveraging the Global Goods Guidebook to inform donor investments.
Exploring the basket of services that both Digital Square and DIAL can offer to support global goods.
UI is still a very low priority for projects and (presumably) donors. DS expressed tentative interest in helping in this area but acknowledged that there is not a funding priority (reading between the lines). This presents an opportunity to us (OpenLMIS) as our UI is already better than most and anything that we can do to improve it will stand out.”
OpenLMIS Team Takeaways
OpenLMIS should continue to build relationships with the other global goods.
Continue to follow up with DIAL about additional services (support with lawyers, shared resources, business models).
Ask Digital Square for communication strategy support.
Make sure someone is always part of the Digital Health and Interoperability working group conversation (DS will be discussing what a GG is there).
Follow up
NOTES
Current funding from Digital Square:
Lots of funding for interoperability
Supporting the DHIS2 community of practice was just launched
Objectives for DS
Build awareness and interest in funding Global Goods
Ear-marked funding for Global Goods
Carl
Says there is a need for Global Goods.
Understands there is a shortfall in funding at the moment
Digital health and the Global Goods
WHO recently passed resolution to support interoperable/affordable/adaptable solutions
Global ‘public’ good, means that by using it, yuou are not preventing others form using it
‘Common pool’ resource- is something that is resource limited, but can be usef by many people (ie: Cloud services, and maybe funding?)
Software is a tool that is free and open source (OpenLMIS, OpenSRP, etc); but there can be tools that provide a service (not necessarily open source, example is Digital Health Atlas), then there is also content ( a toolkit or info being shared)
Lots of big donors signed up for the Digital Investment Principles- pledged to support global goods infrastructure. Architecture to fund things collaboratively still needs to be built--donors need to push to innovate how they fund things, which takes time
What about the data collected within the system? (clayton)
Merrick (USAID) - evaluation tool from USAID to value the global good. Mary Jo has a copy of the tool from Merrick.
OpenMRS is valued at 76 million dollars- this type of data helps to articulate ROI to donors
Global Good Guidebook (advocacy tool for funding country implementations and core development)
How often is it updated? Carl - ad hoc or as new global goods join? We can connect with Amanda
Merrick - would like to have the valuation of each tool in the guide book
Objective for the guidebook is for USAID to promote their new strategy with the Missions. KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN REVIEWING THE CONTENT!
To be launched in late Jan; Bianca will coordinate discussion on how to improve next version
USAID digital strategy is being drafted
What is a global good?
See the slides: (longer question that still needs answering)
Just because you don’t get funding from Digital Square, does not mean you aren’t a global good. Who is the body who defines/identifies global goods? Could it be WHO?
Gerett (WHO) doesn’t know if WHO is the right place to determine who is a global good. Merrick mentioned that WHO could release “Target Product Profile” without naming the product. Or potentially have Mozzilla or another foundation with open source to “evaluate” the codebase and activity in the community.
Clayton: what is the vetting process for? For donors to determine what good to invest in for core development or for donors to use/deploy?
Merrick: both- a 3rd party objective opinion of the global goods would be useful for them in advising their investments. They want ‘proof’ that their investment will bear fruit
How does the global good maturity model fit in? It may not address all the complexities
Guidelines for using cloud services (end of January something needs to be delivered)
Even if you have an interoperability layer, you still have to go into each global good to change the architecture (which would cost a lot and is hard to get funding for)
There is a lot to unpack re: developing guidelines for use of cloud services. To ensure they are cost effective and that they promote global goods
The ask from Carl, we are working on this and want our input. If anyone is interested we need to talk to Carl.
Jake: we are interested in making GG instant deploy and easier to go across host services.
Is it ‘open’ to accept in kind free hosting from private companies like Microsoft?
Merrick: Service for offering commodity purchasing and procurement… how is this related to what PSM is doing? Is this coordinated with them?
Matt raised: what about indemnity and GRDP issues/challenges
Health: risk to your products and relevance in the future
Sustainability
DIAL provides mentorship programs--should we looking into these? They seem mostly coding related…
Services to follow up on and see if it is useful to OpenLMIS
Licensing, can they support us in reviewing to guiding us what to look at
Mapping against open source archetypes NOTES
benevolent dictator, with single organization leader
Still single vender managed
Small software tool, developed and maintained by a single person or small team
Most common
B2B (example, Android)
Multi-Vendor Infra (Kubernetes, who else??)
Controlled Ecosystem (example, what was the one he said?
Mass Market (ex. DHIS2 perhaps….)
Trusted Vender (
Upstream Dependency
Discourse for free??
I wonder if this would include hosting, or just the setup/config?
We could consider transitioning to this once our current contract ends in a year
Microsoft isn’t supporting Azure and moving to Kubernetes
No… Azure will be using Kubernetes, not going away
Matt: Is it still a global good if you start to develop proprietary features and make clients pay for it?
Rebecca: I like the idea he keeps mentioning about adding a 2% budget line for implementers to contribute back to core maintenance (sounds like Measure Eval did this?)
We eventually want donors to be able to recognize the benefits that come with working with a platform that has the ‘professional services’ associated with Open Source (ie the OpenLMIS community support)
Request from the group to DIAL
Is there a map or journey for what has worked?
We should talk about building beautiful products that people want to use.
Global Goods Governance
While there are some commonalities, each project seems to have figured out their own way to do this. I think our vocabulary about what each group is doing could be clearer; different groups mean different things by the same term (committee, team, leader, etc).
Wes: This session generated a lot of conversation and it was interesting that each group that shared had a different type of organization for their governance. However, one thing that I did hear from a few of the groups was that they had gradually adapted their structure based on their experience and feedback from the community. It seems like sharing this type of knowledge would be quite helpful and allow more mature groups to assist less mature ones so that the same kind of mistakes don’t happen over and over.
iHRIS
Community was/is: ⅓ Devs, ⅓ Implementers, ⅓ ?
Have representation from donors, implementers and governments on their Advisory Council
Providing feedback on feature set for new development
Looking for country-level training, who provides training, how to do so cost-effectively
How do they support national health workforce
OpenMRS
They are a non-profit so that they can more easily get grants; thus they also have a board of directors. They have an Advisory Committee that feeds into strategy and operations decisions
Move away from term “leader” and “leadership” as others can find is limiting. Still a work in progress.
Wes: I wonder how realistic it is to get away from this terminology given that, for most projects, there is a core leadership group which helps to shepherd the community ends up being a net positive for the project as a whole.
Struggling with knowing who has authority over which areas- they might re-structure a little in some aspect of the leadership roles
Also has an advisory committee which includes non-community members
OpenLMIS
We knows this
OpenIMIS
OpenIMIS is the first open source software that manages social (health) protection schemes. It links beneficiary, provider and payer data.
I (Wes) don’t really understand what this system does, they need some help to simply explain what their product does.
Complex governance structure-important to invest in governance structures early, so that the initiative can eventually sustain itself
National Health Insurance system is the payer into the system
DHIS2
Donor Advisory Council (USAID, CDC, look at roadmap and agree on features etc.), DHIS2 Advisory group within U of Oslo. There are 5 product streams 1) liaise with product community 2) dev team 3)Country Advisory teams 4)...?
Community is growing because it is more open community of practice, previously did not engage much with NGOs
They don’t respond well to feature requests from donors. *Different from OpenLMIS
Matt: Where does MoH fit into governance? They probably don’t have time to participate in governance, but they are not usually embedded into governance structures
Interesting Comment: Does the OpenLMIS Trusted Partner process inadvertently exclude smaller Africa-based organizations?
Build governance structures only as large as you can manage
Be transparent
Language issue for ownership
UI Breakout Session
Wes helped to facilitate this session and the notes can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DARDiMtKy6V1Wk43i09d6KttTYDWKCfZwkyE5fpBX90/edit#
Basket of Services for Implementers
DIAL wants to understand what services we need; and what other services we could provide to others
Communications team at Digital Square- what guidance can we get to market our global goods?
Article on Digital Square blog-use to share with funders
Strategic Communications Workshop- deliverable is Comms Plan
What channels to post blogs to? Other than ICT works and GDHN, can we all cross-post?
The group voiced a desire to get some ‘community’ support in terms of: communication/ marketing to governments, what events to go to, landscape activities, coming up with united messages that we would share with donors and governments.
Suggestion of a quarterly communications call
Exercise- OpenLMIS SWOT (minus the T):
Strengths
Architect/technical leadership
Interoperability, technical design, reporting stack
Experience with scale
Package of services associated with implementation
Governance, technical structures are in place to support a robust community (for when we eventually get one)
*Mary Jo is a beast
We have applied country-wide deployments
Community is growing- adding new Trusted Partners
Strong coordination for product development- 4 organizations collaborating
Weakness
Technical HR capacity
Engagement with country level actors/users/implementers
Complexity of implementation--from the tech side and the scale
Margin for failure is extreme- if software fails repercussions are serious
Confusion about what OpenLMIS is- marketing/explaining it can be complicated
Access to end users for feedback; need to go through implementers, blocks
Opportunities
Grow community as a whole, including implementers
Capacity building
Community is engaged in sustainability conversations- eager to have a plan and vision that we can all get behind
Common ICT Building Blocks to accelerate progress to the SDGs
If you apply for 1 million and get approved for 250k from Digital Square, can you go to USAID to get remaining funding? What does pre-approval mean?
Ghana office wants to do xx, and they can buy into Digital Square to execute that project. Additional USAID funding in country can be used to support our global good. Merit is the AOR. This allows the missions to access our organization and it’s cheap for them
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